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		<title>By: Sven Horner</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-271176</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Edward,
thank you for your open and honest response. I appreciate that, because I feel it will help me understand you.

Did it make you angry or sad that I wrote &quot;The Sahara maybe isnt such a place where too many people already try to make their living and will have to be pushed aside.&quot;, because you felt that I judge it wrong how Israel was founded and you want to perceive respect and acceptance for the State of Israel? What did this make you feel, if you allow me to ask?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Edward,<br />
thank you for your open and honest response. I appreciate that, because I feel it will help me understand you.</p>
<p>Did it make you angry or sad that I wrote &#8220;The Sahara maybe isnt such a place where too many people already try to make their living and will have to be pushed aside.&#8221;, because you felt that I judge it wrong how Israel was founded and you want to perceive respect and acceptance for the State of Israel? What did this make you feel, if you allow me to ask?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Flaschner</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-271139</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Flaschner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sven,

I was lucky to spend a lifetime in the practice of medicine.  I say lucky because medicine allowed me to form meaningful relationships with people of different color, culture, religion, gender, nation and point of view. Our purpose is to engage humanity in a positive way, every moment every day. At this moment in Israeli hospitals, Jews and Arabs are working together to heal Arabs and Jews.  The people who make up that human system have checked their individual biases at the door.  Permaculture is similar. It not only cultivates the bonds of humanity, it also integrates humanity with the healing tapestry of nature.  Therefore, you’ll forgive me Sven, if being sequestered in the Sahara does not appeal to me right now.

I, a religious Israeli Zionist Jew, have the right to feel as welcome and safe in any of your Mideast teaching centers as does my Muslim Arab colleague who is welcome to attend the Israeli Arava Institute of Desert Studies.

We see what we believe, even more so, we see what we are. It is not the world that determines our worldview- it is us. We pick from the world that which reinforces who we are, ignoring that which does not.  So, if you feel that Israel was born in sin, then everything you see around you, the opinions you espouse, even the good things you do will all flow back through that lens back to who you are.

By the way, you mentioned you were in Hungary.  My mother visited Hungary in 1941 when she escaped the Nazi’s.  She was taken to Auschwitz in 1944.  She survived; her mother and two sisters did not.  That is who I am, and that is how you and I can look at the same human landscape, yet see and feel different things.
Edward Flaschner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sven,</p>
<p>I was lucky to spend a lifetime in the practice of medicine.  I say lucky because medicine allowed me to form meaningful relationships with people of different color, culture, religion, gender, nation and point of view. Our purpose is to engage humanity in a positive way, every moment every day. At this moment in Israeli hospitals, Jews and Arabs are working together to heal Arabs and Jews.  The people who make up that human system have checked their individual biases at the door.  Permaculture is similar. It not only cultivates the bonds of humanity, it also integrates humanity with the healing tapestry of nature.  Therefore, you’ll forgive me Sven, if being sequestered in the Sahara does not appeal to me right now.</p>
<p>I, a religious Israeli Zionist Jew, have the right to feel as welcome and safe in any of your Mideast teaching centers as does my Muslim Arab colleague who is welcome to attend the Israeli Arava Institute of Desert Studies.</p>
<p>We see what we believe, even more so, we see what we are. It is not the world that determines our worldview- it is us. We pick from the world that which reinforces who we are, ignoring that which does not.  So, if you feel that Israel was born in sin, then everything you see around you, the opinions you espouse, even the good things you do will all flow back through that lens back to who you are.</p>
<p>By the way, you mentioned you were in Hungary.  My mother visited Hungary in 1941 when she escaped the Nazi’s.  She was taken to Auschwitz in 1944.  She survived; her mother and two sisters did not.  That is who I am, and that is how you and I can look at the same human landscape, yet see and feel different things.<br />
Edward Flaschner</p>
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		<title>By: Sven Horner</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-270449</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Edward,
if I were you, I&#039;d see if I had the energy, to take it, where I can achieve the most. Maybe it would be a good possibility to create a small piece of peace, being in contact with Beduin people whilst a PDC. Possible or potential conflicts that have been solved once (between you and Beduin people e.g.), will maybe be solved more easily the second time (between different people then).
If you don&#039;t know, whether it will be possible to spend a PDC with certain people meaningfully, maybe it helps to get to know some of them before you decide, if thats possible.
And maybe, it is better to do it elsewhere. I couldn&#039;t just answer this question as well, but maybe it helps you to know on what Id base the answer.
I fully understand the desire to have a Jewish State.. Centuries of persecution, what else does it need? It is fully legitimate to have a desire to live free, safe and self-determined - of course it is. The other side is, that achieving it is so difficult that it almost seems impossible. I mean, we all know the near-east-conflict. Maybe we should found a new state of Israel in the Sahara and as soon as it is accepted, regreen it with permaculture? :) The Sahara maybe isnt such a place where too many people already try to make their living and will have to be pushed aside.
No really, I think it is possible to find a solution that makes peaceful living of Israel and its surrounding states possible. The question only is, if politics can do it. The problem is always created by ourselves.. and sadly you won&#039;t always do the right thing, just because you do it for an idea, that seems right.. so it might even be schizophrenic. That I find some policies schizophrenic however, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean, that I feel &quot;discomfort&quot; with the idea of the Jewish state.
By the way, that reminds me, I have returned from Hungary just 3 days ago. We also spent 3 days in Budapest, and we visited the synagogue as well as the museum there, including the holocaust museum room. Oh I felt so sad for all that, maybe I always will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Edward,<br />
if I were you, I&#8217;d see if I had the energy, to take it, where I can achieve the most. Maybe it would be a good possibility to create a small piece of peace, being in contact with Beduin people whilst a PDC. Possible or potential conflicts that have been solved once (between you and Beduin people e.g.), will maybe be solved more easily the second time (between different people then).<br />
If you don&#8217;t know, whether it will be possible to spend a PDC with certain people meaningfully, maybe it helps to get to know some of them before you decide, if thats possible.<br />
And maybe, it is better to do it elsewhere. I couldn&#8217;t just answer this question as well, but maybe it helps you to know on what Id base the answer.<br />
I fully understand the desire to have a Jewish State.. Centuries of persecution, what else does it need? It is fully legitimate to have a desire to live free, safe and self-determined &#8211; of course it is. The other side is, that achieving it is so difficult that it almost seems impossible. I mean, we all know the near-east-conflict. Maybe we should found a new state of Israel in the Sahara and as soon as it is accepted, regreen it with permaculture? <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The Sahara maybe isnt such a place where too many people already try to make their living and will have to be pushed aside.<br />
No really, I think it is possible to find a solution that makes peaceful living of Israel and its surrounding states possible. The question only is, if politics can do it. The problem is always created by ourselves.. and sadly you won&#8217;t always do the right thing, just because you do it for an idea, that seems right.. so it might even be schizophrenic. That I find some policies schizophrenic however, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean, that I feel &#8220;discomfort&#8221; with the idea of the Jewish state.<br />
By the way, that reminds me, I have returned from Hungary just 3 days ago. We also spent 3 days in Budapest, and we visited the synagogue as well as the museum there, including the holocaust museum room. Oh I felt so sad for all that, maybe I always will.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Flaschner</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-270191</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Flaschner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is, Israel was established and recognized by the United Nations in 1948, as a homeland for the Jewish people.  That was the Zionist dream, and at that time, the Zionist dream was considered legitimate by most states (and permaculturists). So the Israeli government&#039;s desire to have more Jews settle in the Negev is consistent with the purpose of having an Israel in the first place.
Your characterization of this policy as being paranoid- schizophrenic and the use of the word &quot;Judaize&quot; is not, heaven forbid, antisemitic, but it does reflect your deep &quot;discomfort&quot; with the concept of a Jewish State. 
The question for me is: Where does a guy like me who believes in both permaculture and in the Jewish State take the course.  Should I take it in Jordan or with the Beduin - among people who are uncomfortable with my existence in this part of the world, or perhaps in the far east, where people are more detached from this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is, Israel was established and recognized by the United Nations in 1948, as a homeland for the Jewish people.  That was the Zionist dream, and at that time, the Zionist dream was considered legitimate by most states (and permaculturists). So the Israeli government&#8217;s desire to have more Jews settle in the Negev is consistent with the purpose of having an Israel in the first place.<br />
Your characterization of this policy as being paranoid- schizophrenic and the use of the word &#8220;Judaize&#8221; is not, heaven forbid, antisemitic, but it does reflect your deep &#8220;discomfort&#8221; with the concept of a Jewish State.<br />
The question for me is: Where does a guy like me who believes in both permaculture and in the Jewish State take the course.  Should I take it in Jordan or with the Beduin &#8211; among people who are uncomfortable with my existence in this part of the world, or perhaps in the far east, where people are more detached from this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven Horner</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-261141</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems such a difficult topic. I admire anyone who risks his life to go there and try to help in such a crazy, nearly hopeless situation.
The holocaust must have been such a big collective trauma, that it still has such dramatic impact.. I agree with you, Alice, its simply schizophrenic. Sadly fascism created fascism, and fascism will create fascism unless people find the way of harmony. Let&#039;s hope this project will be able to bring some harmony on all levels.

Another possibility I see in the work of this man, Marshall B. Rosenberg, the art of nonviolant communication: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgaeHeIL39Y As his name suggest he is of some jewish origin himself. Ive read a book about the NVC and Im going to have a course in it. In the video he describes how he achieved resolution in a typical near east conflict situation.

I for myself am thinking about doing a project in the oasis Figuig, easternmost city of Marocco, on the border to algeria, in the sahara of course. Until now its just a crazy idea, but I can at least tell you from my little research: They will need help, so they might want to accept it and they already use some principles of permaculture in their traditional way of farming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figuig). They have/had a common problem of agriculture in oases, a fungus, called fusarium oxysporum and causing the Bayud disease, that destroys their date palms, which are their most important crop. Maybe someone reading this likes crazy ideas like this? I could never do it alone.. I need people with experience. Contact me if it speaks to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems such a difficult topic. I admire anyone who risks his life to go there and try to help in such a crazy, nearly hopeless situation.<br />
The holocaust must have been such a big collective trauma, that it still has such dramatic impact.. I agree with you, Alice, its simply schizophrenic. Sadly fascism created fascism, and fascism will create fascism unless people find the way of harmony. Let&#8217;s hope this project will be able to bring some harmony on all levels.</p>
<p>Another possibility I see in the work of this man, Marshall B. Rosenberg, the art of nonviolant communication: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgaeHeIL39Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgaeHeIL39Y</a> As his name suggest he is of some jewish origin himself. Ive read a book about the NVC and Im going to have a course in it. In the video he describes how he achieved resolution in a typical near east conflict situation.</p>
<p>I for myself am thinking about doing a project in the oasis Figuig, easternmost city of Marocco, on the border to algeria, in the sahara of course. Until now its just a crazy idea, but I can at least tell you from my little research: They will need help, so they might want to accept it and they already use some principles of permaculture in their traditional way of farming (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figuig" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figuig</a>). They have/had a common problem of agriculture in oases, a fungus, called fusarium oxysporum and causing the Bayud disease, that destroys their date palms, which are their most important crop. Maybe someone reading this likes crazy ideas like this? I could never do it alone.. I need people with experience. Contact me if it speaks to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-260227</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As both Lapps and Bedouins are nomads, I think the Bedouins might can learn something from the resent relative success of the Lapps. F.ex. the different tribes of Lapps, with completely different languages and spread across Norway, Finland, Sweden and Russia, have agreed on a common flag to represent them all: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Sami_flag.svg

I think this could be a good idea for the Bedouin tribes of the Middle East as well, to unite under a common flag.  

Further the Lapps of Norway has got their own parliament, called Sametinget, while Stortinget is the name of the Norwegian parliament. This is located in Karasjokk, Finnmark, and in many cases the Lapps now govern them self and their heartlands. And all major tasks regarding their matters must be presented for Sametinget, to hear their opinions, before Stortinget decides. 

So what if the Bedouins could have their own parliament in the Negev Desert, like the Lapps have got it in Finnmark: http://gfx.nrk.no/OPvQuqgcLNOOHfrrOp7ENwV2krP02c8T273m4V1g1I5A.jpg

The website of Sametinget is here: http://www.sametinget.no/artikkel.aspx?AId=4267&amp;MId1=3376&amp;back=1

As the main difference between these two nomadic people is that the Lapps have reindeer while the Bedouins have camels, I think they have more in common. So I&#039;m sure Sametinget should like to help the Bedouins of the Negev Desert if they are asked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As both Lapps and Bedouins are nomads, I think the Bedouins might can learn something from the resent relative success of the Lapps. F.ex. the different tribes of Lapps, with completely different languages and spread across Norway, Finland, Sweden and Russia, have agreed on a common flag to represent them all: <a href="http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Sami_flag.svg" rel="nofollow">http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Sami_flag.svg</a></p>
<p>I think this could be a good idea for the Bedouin tribes of the Middle East as well, to unite under a common flag.  </p>
<p>Further the Lapps of Norway has got their own parliament, called Sametinget, while Stortinget is the name of the Norwegian parliament. This is located in Karasjokk, Finnmark, and in many cases the Lapps now govern them self and their heartlands. And all major tasks regarding their matters must be presented for Sametinget, to hear their opinions, before Stortinget decides. </p>
<p>So what if the Bedouins could have their own parliament in the Negev Desert, like the Lapps have got it in Finnmark: <a href="http://gfx.nrk.no/OPvQuqgcLNOOHfrrOp7ENwV2krP02c8T273m4V1g1I5A.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://gfx.nrk.no/OPvQuqgcLNOOHfrrOp7ENwV2krP02c8T273m4V1g1I5A.jpg</a></p>
<p>The website of Sametinget is here: <a href="http://www.sametinget.no/artikkel.aspx?AId=4267&amp;MId1=3376&amp;back=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.sametinget.no/artikkel.aspx?AId=4267&amp;MId1=3376&amp;back=1</a></p>
<p>As the main difference between these two nomadic people is that the Lapps have reindeer while the Bedouins have camels, I think they have more in common. So I&#8217;m sure Sametinget should like to help the Bedouins of the Negev Desert if they are asked!</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-259998</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far I can remember the Jews themselves were Bedouins back in Yemen. Maybe they feel embarrassed by this fact? Here in Norway it&#039;s a sad truth that the author and Nobel Price winner Knut Hamsun disgusted both Jews and Lapps, and supported the Nazis. I think it was only in the seventies the Lapps were allowed to speak Sami language in school, and still ethnic Norwegians are shooting down new signs where Norwegian names are replaced with older Sami names these days. This happen all over the world, in the Negev Desert as in Finnmark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far I can remember the Jews themselves were Bedouins back in Yemen. Maybe they feel embarrassed by this fact? Here in Norway it&#8217;s a sad truth that the author and Nobel Price winner Knut Hamsun disgusted both Jews and Lapps, and supported the Nazis. I think it was only in the seventies the Lapps were allowed to speak Sami language in school, and still ethnic Norwegians are shooting down new signs where Norwegian names are replaced with older Sami names these days. This happen all over the world, in the Negev Desert as in Finnmark.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh PRI Editor</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-259962</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh PRI Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to Alice&#039;s note commenting that many Israelis are not happy with many current Israeli policies, please see this:

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/news/currentarticle.cfm?id=156

I am unhappy with many policies of many governments. If I&#039;m protesting against U.S. or EU policies - it doesn&#039;t mean I hate Americans or Europeans as a people. There&#039;s a huge difference...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to Alice&#8217;s note commenting that many Israelis are not happy with many current Israeli policies, please see this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/news/currentarticle.cfm?id=156" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/news/currentarticle.cfm?id=156</a></p>
<p>I am unhappy with many policies of many governments. If I&#8217;m protesting against U.S. or EU policies &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t mean I hate Americans or Europeans as a people. There&#8217;s a huge difference&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Gray</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-259957</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Erin,

It disturbs me that you conflate criticism of Israeli State policies with anti-Semitism.  I am equally critical of my own country (Britain) when it comes to their policy in the Middle East, or the recent disgraceful eviction of the traveller community at Dale Farm in London.  Am I now a &#039;self-hating Brit&#039;?  

As is clearly laid out in the article, Israeli government (and I emphasize the word government) policy and attitudes towards the Bedouin have been consistently based on racism and &#039;us or them&#039; attitudes.  Only yesterday the Praver Plan (which is an initiative to forcibly relocate between 30 000 and 40 000 Bedouin citizens) was laid out as a Bill, which will very likely soon be passed by the Knesset.  This is an outrageous policy (see here for details:http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/02/491863.html) which will decimate Bedouin communities, setting members of families against each other and further dislocating the Bedouin from their land and their traditional culture.  It must be opposed.  To conflate opposition to this plan with anti-semitism is both dangerous, ignorant and wildly inaccurate.

Furthermore, as is mentioned in the article, elements within Israeli civil society have opposed their own government and there are several NGOs set up by Jewish Israelis to support the Bedouin in realizing their land-rights and opposing eviction.  There are also elements within civil society (right-wing Zionist extremists) who have attacked the co-existence forums.  Only a month ago, the offices of one such NGO in Beer Sheva were burned to the ground.

In addition, in a worrying trend, the current Israeli government has consistently attacked freedom of speech in Israeli society, bringing in laws to try to shut down voices of opposition from within Israel.  First they attacked Israeli NGOs such as Physicians for Human Rights who gave evidence to the Goldstone commission following Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, trying to revoke their charitable status and cut off their funding sources, and then passing a ridiculous law banning boycotts within Israel; a transparent attempt to normalise the illegal settlements in the West Bank and force their integration in Israel as a whole.  

These are dangerous and destructive policies that are opposed by many Israelis.  The fact that you appear to believe that criticism of these attitudes and policies amounts to &#039;slander of an entire people&#039; is, as I mentioned earlier, worrying.  You appear to be defensive to the point of obstructing people, such as myself, and indeed many of my Israeli friends, from telling the truth, however painful it may be, and trying to control and damage that is being done.  Perhaps you should do a little more research,, and you will see that the article is accurate.  If tat makes you sad, perhaps you should get active in trying to change things (Israeli government policy perhaps) instead of throwing stones at the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Erin,</p>
<p>It disturbs me that you conflate criticism of Israeli State policies with anti-Semitism.  I am equally critical of my own country (Britain) when it comes to their policy in the Middle East, or the recent disgraceful eviction of the traveller community at Dale Farm in London.  Am I now a &#8217;self-hating Brit&#8217;?  </p>
<p>As is clearly laid out in the article, Israeli government (and I emphasize the word government) policy and attitudes towards the Bedouin have been consistently based on racism and &#8216;us or them&#8217; attitudes.  Only yesterday the Praver Plan (which is an initiative to forcibly relocate between 30 000 and 40 000 Bedouin citizens) was laid out as a Bill, which will very likely soon be passed by the Knesset.  This is an outrageous policy (see here for details:http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/02/491863.html) which will decimate Bedouin communities, setting members of families against each other and further dislocating the Bedouin from their land and their traditional culture.  It must be opposed.  To conflate opposition to this plan with anti-semitism is both dangerous, ignorant and wildly inaccurate.</p>
<p>Furthermore, as is mentioned in the article, elements within Israeli civil society have opposed their own government and there are several NGOs set up by Jewish Israelis to support the Bedouin in realizing their land-rights and opposing eviction.  There are also elements within civil society (right-wing Zionist extremists) who have attacked the co-existence forums.  Only a month ago, the offices of one such NGO in Beer Sheva were burned to the ground.</p>
<p>In addition, in a worrying trend, the current Israeli government has consistently attacked freedom of speech in Israeli society, bringing in laws to try to shut down voices of opposition from within Israel.  First they attacked Israeli NGOs such as Physicians for Human Rights who gave evidence to the Goldstone commission following Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, trying to revoke their charitable status and cut off their funding sources, and then passing a ridiculous law banning boycotts within Israel; a transparent attempt to normalise the illegal settlements in the West Bank and force their integration in Israel as a whole.  </p>
<p>These are dangerous and destructive policies that are opposed by many Israelis.  The fact that you appear to believe that criticism of these attitudes and policies amounts to &#8217;slander of an entire people&#8217; is, as I mentioned earlier, worrying.  You appear to be defensive to the point of obstructing people, such as myself, and indeed many of my Israeli friends, from telling the truth, however painful it may be, and trying to control and damage that is being done.  Perhaps you should do a little more research,, and you will see that the article is accurate.  If tat makes you sad, perhaps you should get active in trying to change things (Israeli government policy perhaps) instead of throwing stones at the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2012/02/02/the-search-for-sustainability-in-the-negev/#comment-259344</link>
		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article. I visited Israel in the late 70&#039;s. My trip was a pilgrimage of seeking how I fit into a world for contradictions. No one would exactly explained who the Bedouin were. The men we saw were nappers in shade along the road. With a finger they were pointed out as if they were a building or geologic feature. After all these years this article explains a lot.</description>
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