Comments on: It’s Time to Colonise Earth! http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/ Permaculture News, Commentary and Worldwide Projects. Tue, 22 May 2012 14:23:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Robin http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-179727 Robin Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:49:24 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-179727 I love this article, except for the conclusion. Yes, I agree that, first and foremost, let's focus on greening the Earth! But, I don't see why it needs to be either Earth or Mars. Why not colonise both? And nobody is suggesting starting off with trees on Mars. You start with bacteria. Maybe, in a millennia or two, it will be habitable. Which would be fantastic. On Earth, of course, things could happen a lot more quickly. But while I think greening Earth is more important than greening Mars, I refuse to choose between the two. I want both things to happen. I love this article, except for the conclusion. Yes, I agree that, first and foremost, let’s focus on greening the Earth! But, I don’t see why it needs to be either Earth or Mars. Why not colonise both? And nobody is suggesting starting off with trees on Mars. You start with bacteria. Maybe, in a millennia or two, it will be habitable. Which would be fantastic. On Earth, of course, things could happen a lot more quickly. But while I think greening Earth is more important than greening Mars, I refuse to choose between the two. I want both things to happen.

]]> By: Pat Donnelly http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-53369 Pat Donnelly Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:43:32 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-53369 Escellent example of positive tampering. The build up of humus etc was vital and any unwanted flora can always be removed. Likewise the deserts of the world can benefit from similar actions, even if they are termed ecological vandalism. Bamboo in the desert? Agave, Aloe? Escellent example of positive tampering. The build up of humus etc was vital and any unwanted flora can always be removed. Likewise the deserts of the world can benefit from similar actions, even if they are termed ecological vandalism. Bamboo in the desert? Agave, Aloe?

]]> By: JBob http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-52579 JBob Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:31:17 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-52579 I thought you were going to say that Wilkinson wanted to "eradicate all the invasive species and return the rock to its native barren splendor." I thought you were going to say that Wilkinson wanted to “eradicate all the invasive species and return the rock to its native barren splendor.”

]]> By: Thomas Fischbacher http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-52564 Thomas Fischbacher Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:20:19 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-52564 David, two thoughts on that. (a) Stephen Hawking is a major force proposing such ideas. And unfortunately, many consider him a smart guy who has genius insights into pretty much anything. But that's not how it is with physicists. In physics, all that counts is your best ideas. In contradistinction, in chess it's all abour your biggest mistakes. (b) If you read literature from the 70s, you will find that quite some evolution of ideas already has happened. There were way more stupid things proposed back then. But somehow, dialogue and improved access to information has helped a lot. David,

two thoughts on that. (a) Stephen Hawking is a major force proposing such ideas. And unfortunately, many consider him a smart guy who has genius insights into pretty much anything. But that’s not how it is with physicists. In physics, all that counts is your best ideas. In contradistinction, in chess it’s all abour your biggest mistakes. (b) If you read literature from the 70s, you will find that quite some evolution of ideas already has happened. There were way more stupid things proposed back then. But somehow, dialogue and improved access to information has helped a lot.

]]> By: David Bartlett http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-52540 David Bartlett Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:38:46 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-52540 Talking about Darwin....I wonder how long it will take to "evolve away" this point-missing plot of colonization-of-Mars type thinking? How funny ! Talking about Darwin….I wonder how long it will take to “evolve away” this point-missing plot of colonization-of-Mars type thinking? How funny !

]]> By: Craig Mackintosh http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-52523 Craig Mackintosh Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:16:35 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-52523 Yes, it's either as you say, or perhaps a nice plug on the behalf of NASA staff struggling for funding? :) Yes, it’s either as you say, or perhaps a nice plug on the behalf of NASA staff struggling for funding? :)

]]> By: Darren (Green Change) http://permaculture.org.au/2010/09/02/its-time-to-colonise-earth/#comment-52522 Darren (Green Change) Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:13:38 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3856#comment-52522 It's true that the application of these principles has more relevance here on Earth than on Mars, but then if he'd suggested we do this on Earth we would never have heard about it. It'd just be the rantings of another crazy greenie. Perhaps the Mars reference was just a way of sensationalising the idea to get it more media coverage? Or perhaps I'm just an optimist? :-) It’s true that the application of these principles has more relevance here on Earth than on Mars, but then if he’d suggested we do this on Earth we would never have heard about it. It’d just be the rantings of another crazy greenie.

Perhaps the Mars reference was just a way of sensationalising the idea to get it more media coverage?

Or perhaps I’m just an optimist? :-)

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