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	<title>Comments on: Clever Rocky Mountain Greenhouses Give Major Season Extension</title>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-54635</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- Drilling 10,000 m deep geothermal wells: http://www.worldenergymedia.com/News18298_Drilling-10000-m-deep-geothermal-wells.htm

- Rock Energy: http://www.rockenergy.no/index.php

- Radio program about geothermal energy (in Norwegian language): http://nl.nrk.no/podkast/aps/71/nrk_verdt_aa_vite_2010-1012-0235_634224909000000000.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Drilling 10,000 m deep geothermal wells: <a href="http://www.worldenergymedia.com/News18298_Drilling-10000-m-deep-geothermal-wells.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldenergymedia.com/News18298_Drilling-10000-m-deep-geothermal-wells.htm</a></p>
<p>- Rock Energy: <a href="http://www.rockenergy.no/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.rockenergy.no/index.php</a></p>
<p>- Radio program about geothermal energy (in Norwegian language): <a href="http://nl.nrk.no/podkast/aps/71/nrk_verdt_aa_vite_2010-1012-0235_634224909000000000.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://nl.nrk.no/podkast/aps/71/nrk_verdt_aa_vite_2010-1012-0235_634224909000000000.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-53472</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warm Air Stored in the Summer Will Heat a Swiss School in the Winter: http://www.ecogeek.org/component/content/article/3230</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warm Air Stored in the Summer Will Heat a Swiss School in the Winter: <a href="http://www.ecogeek.org/component/content/article/3230" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecogeek.org/component/content/article/3230</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-52875</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was really inspiring to visit Jerome and see what he has achieved. The implications are really amazing for areas that get enough light through the winter to keep things growing. In the far north where the amount of winter light becomes a limiting factor I am very interested to see how much the growing season can be extended.... without adding lights or other energy consumptive measures that overbalance the gains. But just think of all those saunas connected to a greenhouse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was really inspiring to visit Jerome and see what he has achieved. The implications are really amazing for areas that get enough light through the winter to keep things growing. In the far north where the amount of winter light becomes a limiting factor I am very interested to see how much the growing season can be extended&#8230;. without adding lights or other energy consumptive measures that overbalance the gains. But just think of all those saunas connected to a greenhouse!</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-52345</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this link (in Scandinavian language): 

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/article3788268.ece

This guy, Per Vatne, has developed a technique to drill 10000 meters long holes in the ground, down to 15 cm in diameter. The interesting thing is that he can also drill deep u-shaped holes to harvest thermal energy from the ground.

I see a future here where we can combine energy from the Earth with energy from the Sun. This way we could be able to produce all our food here in Scandinavia without significant amounts of CO2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this link (in Scandinavian language): </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/article3788268.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/article3788268.ece</a></p>
<p>This guy, Per Vatne, has developed a technique to drill 10000 meters long holes in the ground, down to 15 cm in diameter. The interesting thing is that he can also drill deep u-shaped holes to harvest thermal energy from the ground.</p>
<p>I see a future here where we can combine energy from the Earth with energy from the Sun. This way we could be able to produce all our food here in Scandinavia without significant amounts of CO2.</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-52189</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to permaculture principle nr. 2, catch &amp; store energy: http://permacultureprinciples.com/principle_2.php , I think nobody has achieved more than Jerome. Congratulations with your greate work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to permaculture principle nr. 2, catch &amp; store energy: <a href="http://permacultureprinciples.com/principle_2.php" rel="nofollow">http://permacultureprinciples.com/principle_2.php</a> , I think nobody has achieved more than Jerome. Congratulations with your greate work!</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Korhonen</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-52073</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Korhonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in places like Finland (where I&#039;m from) and Norway this kind of integrated greenhouse designs can at least remarkably extend the growing season and for example reduce need of heating the buildings, even if we can&#039;t make it all the way to the subtropics with our limitations of available sunlight and long lasting cold periods.

Jerome is coming to Finland to do a workshop on permaculture and greenhouse design this autumn, and hopefully we can get some pioneering projects happening to test how far we can go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in places like Finland (where I&#8217;m from) and Norway this kind of integrated greenhouse designs can at least remarkably extend the growing season and for example reduce need of heating the buildings, even if we can&#8217;t make it all the way to the subtropics with our limitations of available sunlight and long lasting cold periods.</p>
<p>Jerome is coming to Finland to do a workshop on permaculture and greenhouse design this autumn, and hopefully we can get some pioneering projects happening to test how far we can go!</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-51936</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marijtje, Colorado is as far south as Spain. But I&#039;m sure with this system you can stretch the time significantly for when the CO2 accounting comes in favour for growing vegetables here in Norway. 

Unfortunately we do now use so much electrisity during the coldest time of winter that we have to import not renewable energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marijtje, Colorado is as far south as Spain. But I&#8217;m sure with this system you can stretch the time significantly for when the CO2 accounting comes in favour for growing vegetables here in Norway. </p>
<p>Unfortunately we do now use so much electrisity during the coldest time of winter that we have to import not renewable energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Arian I.</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-51931</link>
		<dc:creator>Arian I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. I once heard that in Iceland there exist greenhouses whose temperature is regulated with geothermal steam. I wonder if similar greenhouses exist in other countries. Also, it might be possible to produce the required amount of water vapor in a greenhouse, even in places where geothermal steam is not available. For instance, a greenhouse wherein steam is generated by an electrical boiler element can be employed for small-scale production of bananas and other plants that like muggy conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. I once heard that in Iceland there exist greenhouses whose temperature is regulated with geothermal steam. I wonder if similar greenhouses exist in other countries. Also, it might be possible to produce the required amount of water vapor in a greenhouse, even in places where geothermal steam is not available. For instance, a greenhouse wherein steam is generated by an electrical boiler element can be employed for small-scale production of bananas and other plants that like muggy conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marijtje Mulder</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-51926</link>
		<dc:creator>Marijtje Mulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Oyvind: 
In Norway you need to add light. As long as you use green energy for  lighting, I don&#039;t see an argument against greenhouses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Oyvind:<br />
In Norway you need to add light. As long as you use green energy for  lighting, I don&#8217;t see an argument against greenhouses.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Bridges</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/16/clever-rocky-mountain-greenhouses-give-major-season-extension/#comment-51705</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great greenhouses have given me much inspiration for extending seasons, and growing things out of region.  Jerome&#039;s spot is amazing.  The subterranean heating and cooling seems to work well and I will be doing a workshop in fall 2010 in California. 
contact 1Lovecreekpermaculture@gmail.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great greenhouses have given me much inspiration for extending seasons, and growing things out of region.  Jerome&#8217;s spot is amazing.  The subterranean heating and cooling seems to work well and I will be doing a workshop in fall 2010 in California.<br />
contact <a href="mailto:1Lovecreekpermaculture@gmail.com">1Lovecreekpermaculture@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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