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		<title>By: Marcel Werps</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/12/karma-in-nature/#comment-59218</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel Werps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Paul. Ah, the recurring and perpetual question of how to generate an income and in this case from a piece of land. My reply is not going to be very complimentary, but you may imagine the dislike of farmers towards bankmanagers, foreclosing on the family-farm on this continent of &quot;drought and flooding rain&quot;. 
Yes, weeds are not seen as economically productive, however, that is mainly because of lack of understanding about the longterm processes in Nature and this mainly because &quot;our&quot; economy is to a large extent run by bean-counters who have never smelled the sweetness of a humus-rich soil, let alone have gotten their hands &quot;dirty&quot; in it.
FIRSTLY, many weeds have or used to have a place in society as MEDICINAL HERBS and SECONDLY in the long run they enrich the soil and subsoil by increasing FIBRE content, so increasing humus content and so improving and increasing crops and thus income for the farmer.
Unfortunately over the centuries many good practices have gone by the wayside and one of these is fallowing as prescribed in the &quot;Good Book&quot; which is called exactly that, &quot;The Good Book&quot; for good reasons. It was written in times when people had still a great connectedness to the land and the principles of Nature were still common knowledge to the common man, working the land. The deletion of fallowing from farming practice amounts to FALSE economy, to a large extent based on a denatured and &quot;intoxicated&quot; soil, poisoned by artificial fertilizers, etc.etc. killing any form of beneficial microbial activity that is so necessary for healthy and ABUNDANT plant-life. A FALSE economy based on SCARCITY and the principles of the stockmarket, rather than on the ABUNDANCE of Nature and HER principles; a FALSE economy of artificial manipulation of the worldmarket by a relatively small group of international bankers who for centuries have been trying to squeeze the common man and the farmer out of existence and impoverish that common man, especially spiritually, exactly by the artificial manipulation of the worldmarkets and by the perpetration of disinformation and ignorance by the massmedia and keeping him and her doped up on a steady diet of &quot;bread and games&quot; as already in Roman times.


On the small scale, and especially in temperate climates, the idea is to learn to see and accept weeds as a HELPFUL and NECESSARY force in Nature. In your suburban garden, next to mulching with brought-in straw, allow weeds to grow; water them and LOVE them. (Mulch in the form of tanbark makes the soil acidic.) When the (herbaceous) weeds have fully grown and AFTER they have seeded, cut them off at groundlevel, placing the plantmatter that grew above ground in three dimensions onto the two dimensions of the soilsurface, so providing ABUNDANCE of FIBRE and MULCH, delivering its by now well-known benefits;  the roots of the weeds will decay in situ,  in the very place they grew and so fertilize the subsoil; once these PLANTS have done their job, by a basic process of saturation, they will not come back as frequently as when they are NOT allowed to do their job as &quot;ordained by evolution&quot;. This is further described in my essay, mentioned in above published summary &quot;Karma in Nature&quot;.

Further, as to how to deal with weeds and land, especially with reference to broadacre farming, may I recommend you take another look at the last paragraph of the above published summary (&quot;Karma in Nature&quot;), as well maybe at the book: &quot;The One Straw Revolution&quot; by Japanese farmer and microbiologist Masanobu Fukuoka, who in his very fascinating, stimulating and inspiring text describes many of the secrets of Nature. 

May I wish you a Joyful Christmas and a Blessed and Prosperous New Year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Paul. Ah, the recurring and perpetual question of how to generate an income and in this case from a piece of land. My reply is not going to be very complimentary, but you may imagine the dislike of farmers towards bankmanagers, foreclosing on the family-farm on this continent of &#8220;drought and flooding rain&#8221;.<br />
Yes, weeds are not seen as economically productive, however, that is mainly because of lack of understanding about the longterm processes in Nature and this mainly because &#8220;our&#8221; economy is to a large extent run by bean-counters who have never smelled the sweetness of a humus-rich soil, let alone have gotten their hands &#8220;dirty&#8221; in it.<br />
FIRSTLY, many weeds have or used to have a place in society as MEDICINAL HERBS and SECONDLY in the long run they enrich the soil and subsoil by increasing FIBRE content, so increasing humus content and so improving and increasing crops and thus income for the farmer.<br />
Unfortunately over the centuries many good practices have gone by the wayside and one of these is fallowing as prescribed in the &#8220;Good Book&#8221; which is called exactly that, &#8220;The Good Book&#8221; for good reasons. It was written in times when people had still a great connectedness to the land and the principles of Nature were still common knowledge to the common man, working the land. The deletion of fallowing from farming practice amounts to FALSE economy, to a large extent based on a denatured and &#8220;intoxicated&#8221; soil, poisoned by artificial fertilizers, etc.etc. killing any form of beneficial microbial activity that is so necessary for healthy and ABUNDANT plant-life. A FALSE economy based on SCARCITY and the principles of the stockmarket, rather than on the ABUNDANCE of Nature and HER principles; a FALSE economy of artificial manipulation of the worldmarket by a relatively small group of international bankers who for centuries have been trying to squeeze the common man and the farmer out of existence and impoverish that common man, especially spiritually, exactly by the artificial manipulation of the worldmarkets and by the perpetration of disinformation and ignorance by the massmedia and keeping him and her doped up on a steady diet of &#8220;bread and games&#8221; as already in Roman times.</p>
<p>On the small scale, and especially in temperate climates, the idea is to learn to see and accept weeds as a HELPFUL and NECESSARY force in Nature. In your suburban garden, next to mulching with brought-in straw, allow weeds to grow; water them and LOVE them. (Mulch in the form of tanbark makes the soil acidic.) When the (herbaceous) weeds have fully grown and AFTER they have seeded, cut them off at groundlevel, placing the plantmatter that grew above ground in three dimensions onto the two dimensions of the soilsurface, so providing ABUNDANCE of FIBRE and MULCH, delivering its by now well-known benefits;  the roots of the weeds will decay in situ,  in the very place they grew and so fertilize the subsoil; once these PLANTS have done their job, by a basic process of saturation, they will not come back as frequently as when they are NOT allowed to do their job as &#8220;ordained by evolution&#8221;. This is further described in my essay, mentioned in above published summary &#8220;Karma in Nature&#8221;.</p>
<p>Further, as to how to deal with weeds and land, especially with reference to broadacre farming, may I recommend you take another look at the last paragraph of the above published summary (&#8220;Karma in Nature&#8221;), as well maybe at the book: &#8220;The One Straw Revolution&#8221; by Japanese farmer and microbiologist Masanobu Fukuoka, who in his very fascinating, stimulating and inspiring text describes many of the secrets of Nature. </p>
<p>May I wish you a Joyful Christmas and a Blessed and Prosperous New Year.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/12/karma-in-nature/#comment-59048</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marcel

This is a very insightful and respectful article that asks us, as stewards of this Creation, to shift our paradigm and think differently about nature, including what we label as &quot;weeds&quot;.  As you allude to it, the reason we use the terms weeds is that these forms of vegetation are not seen as economically productive.  If someone found a way to generate income from weeds, they would cease to be labeled as weeds, I am sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marcel</p>
<p>This is a very insightful and respectful article that asks us, as stewards of this Creation, to shift our paradigm and think differently about nature, including what we label as &#8220;weeds&#8221;.  As you allude to it, the reason we use the terms weeds is that these forms of vegetation are not seen as economically productive.  If someone found a way to generate income from weeds, they would cease to be labeled as weeds, I am sure.</p>
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		<title>By: pebble</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/12/karma-in-nature/#comment-51593</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any answers either! so will wait with you for someone else :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/12/karma-in-nature/#comment-51552</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pebble! I&#039;m sorry I don&#039;t have enough knowledge to give you an answer. But thank you for your thoughts about this dilemma. Hope they can inspire someone else to give us an answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pebble! I&#8217;m sorry I don&#8217;t have enough knowledge to give you an answer. But thank you for your thoughts about this dilemma. Hope they can inspire someone else to give us an answer?</p>
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		<title>By: pebble</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/12/karma-in-nature/#comment-51524</link>
		<dc:creator>pebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weeds also have many direct benefits for humans as food, medicine and fibre for materials.

Oyvind, I&#039;m not so sure. I fully understand the problems with GE plants (and believe that all such technology should stop now). But once one of these plant species has naturalised, what are our ethical and karmic responsibilities? Do we hate the GE plants instead of loving them? How does that affect our relationship with the rest of nature? And if we can hate GE plants, why not other plants that we deem &#039;bad&#039;. Pines, willows, gorse, brooms, nettles are all plants where I live that would never have been here were it not for human ignorance and technology. I&#039;m sure the time will come when permies are saying we need to work with GE escapees in the same way we work with other introduced naturalised plants i.e. look at how they work in the landscape rather than demonising them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeds also have many direct benefits for humans as food, medicine and fibre for materials.</p>
<p>Oyvind, I&#8217;m not so sure. I fully understand the problems with GE plants (and believe that all such technology should stop now). But once one of these plant species has naturalised, what are our ethical and karmic responsibilities? Do we hate the GE plants instead of loving them? How does that affect our relationship with the rest of nature? And if we can hate GE plants, why not other plants that we deem &#8216;bad&#8217;. Pines, willows, gorse, brooms, nettles are all plants where I live that would never have been here were it not for human ignorance and technology. I&#8217;m sure the time will come when permies are saying we need to work with GE escapees in the same way we work with other introduced naturalised plants i.e. look at how they work in the landscape rather than demonising them.</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/12/karma-in-nature/#comment-51506</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I surely agree! But there is a new weed we should not love, a weed in the wildernes, a weed from Monsanto spreading in the wild: http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100806/full/news.2010.393.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I surely agree! But there is a new weed we should not love, a weed in the wildernes, a weed from Monsanto spreading in the wild: <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100806/full/news.2010.393.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100806/full/news.2010.393.html</a></p>
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