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	<title>Comments on: Mining Madness &#8211; We Need Help Here in South Africa</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51498</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Byron - I&#039;ve updated the link in the post above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Byron &#8211; I&#8217;ve updated the link in the post above.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51497</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The petition has moved off the front page and onto a page of its own.
It can be found here...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/save-the-groot-marico-river/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The petition has moved off the front page and onto a page of its own.<br />
It can be found here&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/save-the-groot-marico-river/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/save-the-groot-marico-river/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peterfd</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51496</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterfd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. I noticed your petition has moved/closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. I noticed your petition has moved/closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterfd</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51493</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterfd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Santa van Bart

Just a couple of immediate thoughts on this one.

You really need to raise the National and International profile of what “African Nickel” are up to. A bad international press, especially on an ecological issue, (following hot on the heals of BP’s oil disaster) could hurt them financially.

Can you get a delegation to Nelson Mandela, make as much noise as you can. When Mandela speaks the world listens!

Remember the ANC and the “Freedom Charter”? The ANC has taken a lot of bad press on the Freedom Charter but if you could make it an issue you may force them to take action to regain general support. (There’s a lot more that could be said on this, however my feeling is to make this whole “African Nickel”, with its foreign investors, a very big Freedom Charter issue).

You could also try and invoke International Law and the United Nations to slow down the process. Equally the human rights issue would put you in the international spotlight as would appeals to the various International Human Rights Tribunals.

Not an easy path to tread.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Santa van Bart</p>
<p>Just a couple of immediate thoughts on this one.</p>
<p>You really need to raise the National and International profile of what “African Nickel” are up to. A bad international press, especially on an ecological issue, (following hot on the heals of BP’s oil disaster) could hurt them financially.</p>
<p>Can you get a delegation to Nelson Mandela, make as much noise as you can. When Mandela speaks the world listens!</p>
<p>Remember the ANC and the “Freedom Charter”? The ANC has taken a lot of bad press on the Freedom Charter but if you could make it an issue you may force them to take action to regain general support. (There’s a lot more that could be said on this, however my feeling is to make this whole “African Nickel”, with its foreign investors, a very big Freedom Charter issue).</p>
<p>You could also try and invoke International Law and the United Nations to slow down the process. Equally the human rights issue would put you in the international spotlight as would appeals to the various International Human Rights Tribunals.</p>
<p>Not an easy path to tread.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51313</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can completely agree that this mining operation is just totally bad for everyone except a few individuals to pocket the money; my question is of those farmers who might negatively be affected how many are the descendants of the Traditional Owners (Tswana, Xhosa or Griqua) ? If the nation of South Africa is going to halt this operation shouldn&#039;t it be because many varying people with different levels (and scales) of agriculture benefit rather than a priviledged few ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can completely agree that this mining operation is just totally bad for everyone except a few individuals to pocket the money; my question is of those farmers who might negatively be affected how many are the descendants of the Traditional Owners (Tswana, Xhosa or Griqua) ? If the nation of South Africa is going to halt this operation shouldn&#8217;t it be because many varying people with different levels (and scales) of agriculture benefit rather than a priviledged few ?</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51218</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“In principle, there are basically three ways to influence the choices people make:

1. Regulate what people cannot do and punish violations.

2. Offer incentives to encourage certain choices.

3. Provide information that rings so true it compels good choices.

If you believe that, for the most part, people want to do the right
thing, the most effective and peaceful method of influencing good decisions is to provide good information so the right thing becomes self-evident.

For example, Maine has historically had one of the highest teen smoking rates in the nation. We have made laws against teen smoking and punished violators. We have created incentives against smoking such as high taxes on cigarettes. These have not had satisfactory results.

Only recently has the rate dramatically declined and it is because we launched an information campaign that made the detrimental health effects of cigarette smoking clear. We provided truthful information on television and radio. For all those teens who want to do the right thing, it’s now clear what that is.

Practical Tip: Provide all decision makers with the best possible information about the issue being considered. Good, truthful information is extremely compelling.

Actually, good information is the only thing that is truly compelling and results in sustainable decisions.”

Craig Freshley

Keep on providing information that rings so true it compels good choices. You surely do in this article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In principle, there are basically three ways to influence the choices people make:</p>
<p>1. Regulate what people cannot do and punish violations.</p>
<p>2. Offer incentives to encourage certain choices.</p>
<p>3. Provide information that rings so true it compels good choices.</p>
<p>If you believe that, for the most part, people want to do the right<br />
thing, the most effective and peaceful method of influencing good decisions is to provide good information so the right thing becomes self-evident.</p>
<p>For example, Maine has historically had one of the highest teen smoking rates in the nation. We have made laws against teen smoking and punished violators. We have created incentives against smoking such as high taxes on cigarettes. These have not had satisfactory results.</p>
<p>Only recently has the rate dramatically declined and it is because we launched an information campaign that made the detrimental health effects of cigarette smoking clear. We provided truthful information on television and radio. For all those teens who want to do the right thing, it’s now clear what that is.</p>
<p>Practical Tip: Provide all decision makers with the best possible information about the issue being considered. Good, truthful information is extremely compelling.</p>
<p>Actually, good information is the only thing that is truly compelling and results in sustainable decisions.”</p>
<p>Craig Freshley</p>
<p>Keep on providing information that rings so true it compels good choices. You surely do in this article!</p>
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		<title>By: JBob</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51189</link>
		<dc:creator>JBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you all succeed in defending your private property rights against this aggression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you all succeed in defending your private property rights against this aggression.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51164</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 06:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey People 

This little town features a bunch of really lovely people who are nature, community and spirit concise, there are allot of good things happening in Groot Marico, Ram Pumps, Organic Gardening, Alternative power, Small Permaculture projects, Buddhist Temple, Tipi&#039;s, Cob Housing, Community Gatherings, Nature reserves, Fishing, Sound Journeys and Drum Circles... and a whole bunch of exciting stuff.

Please help us by signing the petition 
www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/586/253/543

So that you will have a lovely place to come visit 
swim in crystal spring water, drink it while you swim, help out on a Permaculture Project, gather with the community, play some instruments, share and soak up the Beauty and Tranquility of the lovely Marico

Ps : Find the Happy Toes Farm ( http://www.happytoes.co.za/ ) and get your feet dirty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey People </p>
<p>This little town features a bunch of really lovely people who are nature, community and spirit concise, there are allot of good things happening in Groot Marico, Ram Pumps, Organic Gardening, Alternative power, Small Permaculture projects, Buddhist Temple, Tipi&#8217;s, Cob Housing, Community Gatherings, Nature reserves, Fishing, Sound Journeys and Drum Circles&#8230; and a whole bunch of exciting stuff.</p>
<p>Please help us by signing the petition<br />
<a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/586/253/543" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/586/253/543</a></p>
<p>So that you will have a lovely place to come visit<br />
swim in crystal spring water, drink it while you swim, help out on a Permaculture Project, gather with the community, play some instruments, share and soak up the Beauty and Tranquility of the lovely Marico</p>
<p>Ps : Find the Happy Toes Farm ( <a href="http://www.happytoes.co.za/" rel="nofollow">http://www.happytoes.co.za/</a> ) and get your feet dirty.</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/08/03/mining-madness-we-need-help-here-in-south-africa/#comment-51157</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Surely we do need a more capable EPA and more green politicians, but it is arguably our “ecopsychology” that will be more powerful and consequential over time.&quot;

See: http://eartheasy.com/blog/2010/04/our-psychic-connections-to-nature/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Surely we do need a more capable EPA and more green politicians, but it is arguably our “ecopsychology” that will be more powerful and consequential over time.&#8221;</p>
<p>See: <a href="http://eartheasy.com/blog/2010/04/our-psychic-connections-to-nature/" rel="nofollow">http://eartheasy.com/blog/2010/04/our-psychic-connections-to-nature/</a></p>
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