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	<title>Comments on: A Bookful of Bookerisms</title>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Holmstad</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-50473</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Holmstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25-40 % of the CO2 is absorbed by the sea. I heard in a documentary at SVT recently that the pH in the sea has been stable for 43 million years. Now some cientists fear a drop from pH 8,2 to pH 7,8 within 100 years. This is dramatic, and such a rapid change in the oceans pH has never before happend in the history of planet earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25-40 % of the CO2 is absorbed by the sea. I heard in a documentary at SVT recently that the pH in the sea has been stable for 43 million years. Now some cientists fear a drop from pH 8,2 to pH 7,8 within 100 years. This is dramatic, and such a rapid change in the oceans pH has never before happend in the history of planet earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-50462</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reville - before we even starting mining coal or drilling for oil, we were changing climate. 

http://permaculture.org.au/2009/12/14/the-biology-of-global-warming

Forests are our natural climate regulators. Through erasing a large percentage of these forests, and through converting our soils into carbon sources instead of the carbon sinks they should be, we&#039;re losing uber-important free services that are the basis of environmental/climate stabilty. We&#039;ve put ourselves in a rather tenuous position. Giving biology its rightful respect and place is paramount to our survival, and goes a lot deeper than industry/political motivations. Politics and economics of left or right matter not to natural systems. I&#039;d suggest not merely looking through the spectacles of our social constructs, but to peek over the rim instead, to see the realities of the interconnectedness of natural systems, and how we&#039;ve seriously interfered with them.

Climate change is occurring. Natural systems are blind to conspiracy and economic theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reville &#8211; before we even starting mining coal or drilling for oil, we were changing climate. </p>
<p><a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2009/12/14/the-biology-of-global-warming" rel="nofollow">http://permaculture.org.au/2009/12/14/the-biology-of-global-warming</a></p>
<p>Forests are our natural climate regulators. Through erasing a large percentage of these forests, and through converting our soils into carbon sources instead of the carbon sinks they should be, we&#8217;re losing uber-important free services that are the basis of environmental/climate stabilty. We&#8217;ve put ourselves in a rather tenuous position. Giving biology its rightful respect and place is paramount to our survival, and goes a lot deeper than industry/political motivations. Politics and economics of left or right matter not to natural systems. I&#8217;d suggest not merely looking through the spectacles of our social constructs, but to peek over the rim instead, to see the realities of the interconnectedness of natural systems, and how we&#8217;ve seriously interfered with them.</p>
<p>Climate change is occurring. Natural systems are blind to conspiracy and economic theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Fischbacher</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-50436</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Fischbacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reville,

&gt; The climate is always changing 
&gt; if we didnt have the relative lifespan of ants then we would remember this! 

The big problem is that the way we overload the natural carbon cycle with extra emissions, climate change is about two orders of magnitude faster than anything that ever happened naturally. The fast return of a lot of ancient carbon to the atmosphere is a geologically highly exceptional situation. On such short time scales, it quite likely never has happened before in our planet&#039;s history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reville,</p>
<p>&gt; The climate is always changing<br />
&gt; if we didnt have the relative lifespan of ants then we would remember this! </p>
<p>The big problem is that the way we overload the natural carbon cycle with extra emissions, climate change is about two orders of magnitude faster than anything that ever happened naturally. The fast return of a lot of ancient carbon to the atmosphere is a geologically highly exceptional situation. On such short time scales, it quite likely never has happened before in our planet&#8217;s history.</p>
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		<title>By: Reville</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-50418</link>
		<dc:creator>Reville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The climate is always changing 
if we didnt have the relative lifespan of ants then we would remember this! 

i am quite concerened by the runaway dumbing down of science that attributes climate change to human activity.

Yes the climate is changing
but we shouldnt be so keen to jump on the anthropogenic climate change bandwagon

its only popular because a lot of people stand to make a lot of money out of it
a lot of people ARE making a lot of money out of it
be they climate scientists or retailers
 
and among scientists because if you DARE stand up against it now and question it is a form of career suicide

so im calling for calm

you dont have to have a view on the cause of climate change to be effective.
before this new crisies came to dominate all others we already had problems
- erosion and salinization of soils
- loss of human rights
-loss of languages, biodiversity and agrobiodiversity
- loss of and degradation of hydrological systems
- Peak oil
-Peak everything

reduce, re-use, recycle, rethink by all accounts 
but do it for the reasons you already know about and that are REAL

climate change would have happenned anyway, which is why we need dynamic stability built into our living environments
The world does not react to climate change evenly either! its is really not hard to look through the published peer reviewd literature and find serious holes in the simplistic argumnets for anthropogenic climate change

please dont get sucked into the convoluted climate change sinkhole.
Its just the story of Chicken little playing out 
and the Fox at the end of the tale with the clever solution are the usual suspects

never trust the fox, ever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate is always changing<br />
if we didnt have the relative lifespan of ants then we would remember this! </p>
<p>i am quite concerened by the runaway dumbing down of science that attributes climate change to human activity.</p>
<p>Yes the climate is changing<br />
but we shouldnt be so keen to jump on the anthropogenic climate change bandwagon</p>
<p>its only popular because a lot of people stand to make a lot of money out of it<br />
a lot of people ARE making a lot of money out of it<br />
be they climate scientists or retailers</p>
<p>and among scientists because if you DARE stand up against it now and question it is a form of career suicide</p>
<p>so im calling for calm</p>
<p>you dont have to have a view on the cause of climate change to be effective.<br />
before this new crisies came to dominate all others we already had problems<br />
- erosion and salinization of soils<br />
- loss of human rights<br />
-loss of languages, biodiversity and agrobiodiversity<br />
- loss of and degradation of hydrological systems<br />
- Peak oil<br />
-Peak everything</p>
<p>reduce, re-use, recycle, rethink by all accounts<br />
but do it for the reasons you already know about and that are REAL</p>
<p>climate change would have happenned anyway, which is why we need dynamic stability built into our living environments<br />
The world does not react to climate change evenly either! its is really not hard to look through the published peer reviewd literature and find serious holes in the simplistic argumnets for anthropogenic climate change</p>
<p>please dont get sucked into the convoluted climate change sinkhole.<br />
Its just the story of Chicken little playing out<br />
and the Fox at the end of the tale with the clever solution are the usual suspects</p>
<p>never trust the fox, ever</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-49990</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I pointed out that the Sunday Telegraph continued to employ a man who cannot tell the difference between summer and winter&quot;

I really enjoyed that piece.

re: Ricky Dicky, wow an idiot AND a bigot. It&#039;s funny because you&#039;re still wrong and given the quality of your response I can see why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I pointed out that the Sunday Telegraph continued to employ a man who cannot tell the difference between summer and winter&#8221;</p>
<p>I really enjoyed that piece.</p>
<p>re: Ricky Dicky, wow an idiot AND a bigot. It&#8217;s funny because you&#8217;re still wrong and given the quality of your response I can see why.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Fischbacher</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-49839</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Fischbacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes one wonder... is the best what Richard North can do ad hominem attacks...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes one wonder&#8230; is the best what Richard North can do ad hominem attacks&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard North</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-49818</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope so, or it would have been a waste of time putting you in those prison ships.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope so, or it would have been a waste of time putting you in those prison ships.</p>
<p> <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-49801</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is this the best an Australian “research institute” can do … regurgitate the meanderings of a partisan commentator from a bankrupt British newspaper?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, Richard, don&#039;t worry - we do much more than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is this the best an Australian “research institute” can do … regurgitate the meanderings of a partisan commentator from a bankrupt British newspaper?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, Richard, don&#8217;t worry &#8211; we do much more than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard North</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2010/07/07/a-bookful-of-bookerisms/#comment-49800</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the best an Australian &quot;research institute&quot; can do ... regurgitate the meanderings of a partisan commentator from a bankrupt British newspaper?

Nice one!  Good advert for the objectivity, skill, academic rigour and independence of a fine institution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the best an Australian &#8220;research institute&#8221; can do &#8230; regurgitate the meanderings of a partisan commentator from a bankrupt British newspaper?</p>
<p>Nice one!  Good advert for the objectivity, skill, academic rigour and independence of a fine institution.</p>
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