Comments on: Carbon Trading Under Scrutiny http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/01/carbon-trading-under-scrutiny/ Permaculture News, Commentary and Worldwide Projects. Tue, 22 May 2012 14:23:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ecodharmamark http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/01/carbon-trading-under-scrutiny/#comment-48930 ecodharmamark Sat, 12 Jun 2010 05:59:45 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=3208#comment-48930 Craig, what surprises me is that your comments have yet to be howled down by all sides of the perpetual growth camp. The peaking of ecological goods and services has been apparent to many of the world's true economists (Nicholas Stern of the UK, and Australia's Ross Garnaut, just to name a couple) for quite some time, yet our so-called democratically-elected leaders refuse to budge from the unsustainable BAU (business as usual) model of 'sustainable development'. Thanks for providing links to these two important documents, both of which add intelligent expression to the general discourse on developing grass-roots political solutions to human induced climate change and peak oil. One thing that is glaringly obvious to those who will take the time to read them, is that we can not expect to fix the problem by applying more of the same that created it! In the words of the authors of the first paper you linked to (p. 102): "There are no short cuts around the difficult work of political organising and alliance building. There are no back roads or technofixes around the historical and international policies that have created climate change. No aspect of the debate on climate change can be disentangled from discussions about colonialism, racism, gender, women’s rights, exploitation, land grabs, agriculture and the democratic control of technology. Carbon trading will never address these critical issues because the struggle against climate change has to be part of the larger fight for a more just, democratic and equal world." Craig, what surprises me is that your comments have yet to be howled down by all sides of the perpetual growth camp. The peaking of ecological goods and services has been apparent to many of the world’s true economists (Nicholas Stern of the UK, and Australia’s Ross Garnaut, just to name a couple) for quite some time, yet our so-called democratically-elected leaders refuse to budge from the unsustainable BAU (business as usual) model of ’sustainable development’. Thanks for providing links to these two important documents, both of which add intelligent expression to the general discourse on developing grass-roots political solutions to human induced climate change and peak oil. One thing that is glaringly obvious to those who will take the time to read them, is that we can not expect to fix the problem by applying more of the same that created it! In the words of the authors of the first paper you linked to (p. 102):

“There are no short cuts around the difficult work of political organising and alliance building. There are no back roads or technofixes around the historical and international policies that have created climate change. No aspect of the debate on climate change can be disentangled from discussions about colonialism, racism, gender, women’s rights, exploitation, land grabs, agriculture and the democratic control of technology. Carbon trading will never address these critical issues because the struggle against climate change has to be part of the larger fight for a more just, democratic and equal world.”

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