Comments on: Obama On Corporate Buyout of Democracy http://permaculture.org.au/2010/02/25/obama-on-corporate-buyout-of-democracy/ Permaculture News, Commentary and Worldwide Projects. Tue, 22 May 2012 06:34:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Evan Young http://permaculture.org.au/2010/02/25/obama-on-corporate-buyout-of-democracy/#comment-44203 Evan Young Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:45:50 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=2550#comment-44203 How does criticising a capitalist puppet perpetuate the capitalist system? I think illusory notions of changing this system by supporting people like Obama just promotes the myth that you can change the system from the inside. History has proven over and over and over and over again that all who try to change corrupt systems from the inside are themselves corrupted by the system. The only advances we get are tiny and are stripped away as soon as we can. I don't envy Obama, he has the impossible positions of governing a soon to be bankrupt country that can never hope to pay off the incredible debts of the USA How does criticising a capitalist puppet perpetuate the capitalist system? I think illusory notions of changing this system by supporting people like Obama just promotes the myth that you can change the system from the inside. History has proven over and over and over and over again that all who try to change corrupt systems from the inside are themselves corrupted by the system. The only advances we get are tiny and are stripped away as soon as we can. I don’t envy Obama, he has the impossible positions of governing a soon to be bankrupt country that can never hope to pay off the incredible debts of the USA

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]]> By: Daniel http://permaculture.org.au/2010/02/25/obama-on-corporate-buyout-of-democracy/#comment-44090 Daniel Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:58:23 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=2550#comment-44090 I do not agree. Obama is smart and knows what he wants, and he's talking to the public because the public needs to realize the problems he cannot solve all by himself. He may try, but the corporation guided politics system will destroy him. With the help of the citizens, he may actually achieve something. Your criticizing only helps the corrupt capitalist system we all want to fight against. Give him some time and support, it is not easy to make it work. I do not agree. Obama is smart and knows what he wants, and he’s talking to the public because the public needs to realize the problems he cannot solve all by himself. He may try, but the corporation guided politics system will destroy him. With the help of the citizens, he may actually achieve something. Your criticizing only helps the corrupt capitalist system we all want to fight against. Give him some time and support, it is not easy to make it work.

]]> By: Evan Young http://permaculture.org.au/2010/02/25/obama-on-corporate-buyout-of-democracy/#comment-44070 Evan Young Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:52:55 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=2550#comment-44070 I agree entirely. One of the things that excites me most about Permaculture is that it can give us a great help in moving towards a more participatory society. I agree entirely. One of the things that excites me most about Permaculture is that it can give us a great help in moving towards a more participatory society.

]]> By: Craig Mackintosh http://permaculture.org.au/2010/02/25/obama-on-corporate-buyout-of-democracy/#comment-44064 Craig Mackintosh Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:26:17 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=2550#comment-44064 Way back when Obama was voted in, I wrote the following post expressing my concerns over the unrealistic expectations I saw from jubilant voters: http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/06/new-beginnings/ In the end, he's not too much like us - just a cog in the great machine. We can never find a 'perfect leader'. Every four years we convince ourselves things might be different. But each president is absorbed into the system, and rarely makes more than just token changes. What do they say? "Same shit, different day". Participatory democracy is the way forward, where we're reliant on the people around us, not one guy in a big white house far away. Way back when Obama was voted in, I wrote the following post expressing my concerns over the unrealistic expectations I saw from jubilant voters:

http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/06/new-beginnings/

In the end, he’s not too much like us – just a cog in the great machine. We can never find a ‘perfect leader’. Every four years we convince ourselves things might be different. But each president is absorbed into the system, and rarely makes more than just token changes. What do they say? “Same shit, different day”.

Participatory democracy is the way forward, where we’re reliant on the people around us, not one guy in a big white house far away.

]]> By: Evan Young http://permaculture.org.au/2010/02/25/obama-on-corporate-buyout-of-democracy/#comment-44014 Evan Young Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:50:37 +0000 http://permaculture.org.au/?p=2550#comment-44014 Obama says whatever people want to hear. This speech has a nice sentiment but he is an out and out liar just like every other politician. Obama says whatever people want to hear. This speech has a nice sentiment but he is an out and out liar just like every other politician.

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