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	<title>Comments on: The Mathematics that Contemporary Economics Ignores</title>
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		<title>By: Jay Ellen</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2009/11/03/the-mathematics-that-contemporary-economics-ignores/#comment-252351</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely brilliant!  Finally someone with clout and saying what I have been saying for years.  I kept saying to people - take an orange and start sticking cloves into it.  What happens when there is no more space... Yep pretty simple math.  I&#039;ve been called crazy and the best comment &quot;don&#039;t worry about it...it will sort itself out&quot;  Yes it will and what will that be...?

No one species should dominate the planet.  To me it is like a large jigsaw puzzle and every piece has it role to play - understood or not!  As soon as it is out of balance - problems arrise not neccessarily to be solved - but to alert us to the imbalance!  Thank you for having these videos available :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely brilliant!  Finally someone with clout and saying what I have been saying for years.  I kept saying to people &#8211; take an orange and start sticking cloves into it.  What happens when there is no more space&#8230; Yep pretty simple math.  I&#8217;ve been called crazy and the best comment &#8220;don&#8217;t worry about it&#8230;it will sort itself out&#8221;  Yes it will and what will that be&#8230;?</p>
<p>No one species should dominate the planet.  To me it is like a large jigsaw puzzle and every piece has it role to play &#8211; understood or not!  As soon as it is out of balance &#8211; problems arrise not neccessarily to be solved &#8211; but to alert us to the imbalance!  Thank you for having these videos available <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2009/11/03/the-mathematics-that-contemporary-economics-ignores/#comment-38203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! I was introduced to Dr. Bartlett&#039;s video by my permaculture teacher. I use parts 1 and 5 in a presentation for university freshmen on sustainability. I think I need to add some more unpacking after showing the videos - It&#039;s pretty mindblowing and I can&#039;t really tell if the students get it or not.

My only beef is that I would love a version with updated statistics. I&#039;m currently working on replacing the video with slides of my own when I present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! I was introduced to Dr. Bartlett&#8217;s video by my permaculture teacher. I use parts 1 and 5 in a presentation for university freshmen on sustainability. I think I need to add some more unpacking after showing the videos &#8211; It&#8217;s pretty mindblowing and I can&#8217;t really tell if the students get it or not.</p>
<p>My only beef is that I would love a version with updated statistics. I&#8217;m currently working on replacing the video with slides of my own when I present.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Payne</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2009/11/03/the-mathematics-that-contemporary-economics-ignores/#comment-38196</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is brilliant Craig, thanks for putting it here. I came across this youtube six months ago and I have been using the milk bottle story to really hit home for people about the seriousness of the growth culture we are trapped in. One interesting conversation I had was with a 17 year old science student, I asked him what he thought would happen at 12 o&#039;clock when the bacteria run out of room, he said &quot;they will simultaneously kill each other and starve to death&quot;. That milk bottle sounds like somewhere we know, doesnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is brilliant Craig, thanks for putting it here. I came across this youtube six months ago and I have been using the milk bottle story to really hit home for people about the seriousness of the growth culture we are trapped in. One interesting conversation I had was with a 17 year old science student, I asked him what he thought would happen at 12 o&#8217;clock when the bacteria run out of room, he said &#8220;they will simultaneously kill each other and starve to death&#8221;. That milk bottle sounds like somewhere we know, doesnt it?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Luthi</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2009/11/03/the-mathematics-that-contemporary-economics-ignores/#comment-38183</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Luthi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post Craig. This should be a &quot;must-watch&quot; for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post Craig. This should be a &#8220;must-watch&#8221; for everyone.</p>
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