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	<title>Comments on: Whistling in the Wind</title>
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		<title>By: Shodo Spring</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/12/03/whistling-in-the-wind/#comment-29068</link>
		<dc:creator>Shodo Spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am extremely grateful for Monbiot&#039;s deep reporting and for his pushing the UK government to do what needs to be done. Here in the US,we need to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am extremely grateful for Monbiot&#8217;s deep reporting and for his pushing the UK government to do what needs to be done. Here in the US,we need to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/12/03/whistling-in-the-wind/#comment-28591</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there are many environmental problems and we need to act immediately to try and reverse them.  I just want to make sure that we do act and not allow the governments to tax us.  Taxing will only keep people from being proactive because they will assume the governments are going to fix it.  If this was the case, we would not have GMO&#039;s.  This is a huge problem here in the United States.  This is my main point.  Proactive solutions, not government enslavement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there are many environmental problems and we need to act immediately to try and reverse them.  I just want to make sure that we do act and not allow the governments to tax us.  Taxing will only keep people from being proactive because they will assume the governments are going to fix it.  If this was the case, we would not have GMO&#8217;s.  This is a huge problem here in the United States.  This is my main point.  Proactive solutions, not government enslavement.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/12/03/whistling-in-the-wind/#comment-28577</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13. Relocalise. The simple act of transitioning to local economies, rather than the centralised, globalised model we&#039;re using today, would not only hugely reduce energy consumption, but bring much needed diversity back.

Wholly agree on the potential for delivering carbon back into our soils - if you didn&#039;t catch it, &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2008/10/01/trees-giving-up-battle-but-sustainable-farming-offers-hope/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s a post we did recently&lt;/a&gt; on this. 

Jacob - I wholly disagree with your views on climate change, but readily admit that if we would just to what needs to be done anyway (to avoid the myriad other calamaties we face - like &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/07/soil-our-financial-institution/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;soil&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2008/09/12/water-worries/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;water&lt;/a&gt; issues, &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/17/staring-at-the-future-from-the-top-of-the-slippery-slide/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;peak oil&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/13/pesticides-and-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pollution&lt;/a&gt;, etc.) that it would be an academic argument. The solutions to all these problems also happen to be the solution to climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13. Relocalise. The simple act of transitioning to local economies, rather than the centralised, globalised model we&#8217;re using today, would not only hugely reduce energy consumption, but bring much needed diversity back.</p>
<p>Wholly agree on the potential for delivering carbon back into our soils &#8211; if you didn&#8217;t catch it, <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2008/10/01/trees-giving-up-battle-but-sustainable-farming-offers-hope/" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s a post we did recently</a> on this. </p>
<p>Jacob &#8211; I wholly disagree with your views on climate change, but readily admit that if we would just to what needs to be done anyway (to avoid the myriad other calamaties we face &#8211; like <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/07/soil-our-financial-institution/" rel="nofollow">soil</a> and <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2008/09/12/water-worries/" rel="nofollow">water</a> issues, <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/17/staring-at-the-future-from-the-top-of-the-slippery-slide/" rel="nofollow">peak oil</a>, <a href="http://permaculture.org.au/2008/08/13/pesticides-and-you/" rel="nofollow">pollution</a>, etc.) that it would be an academic argument. The solutions to all these problems also happen to be the solution to climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Luetkemeyer</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/12/03/whistling-in-the-wind/#comment-28575</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Luetkemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have studied both sides of the environmental issues, the political side and the environmental side.  We do have many problems that need to be taken care of immediately with the environment.  GMO&#039;s, mass cutting of our trees, etc.  From the research on both sides I have done, climate change is not occurring because of carbon emissions.  This is propaganda being used to condition everyone for being taxed on carbon emissions.  This is openly stated by several political leaders, scientists, CEO&#039;s, etc. from all around the globe.  Carbon is a life producing gas.  It was here well before oxygen.  Please do not be sucked in to this propaganda and allow them to enforce carbon taxes.  These taxes will do nothing to reverse any of the environmental problems.  The suggestions above are the solutions.  We need to act upon our knowledge and begin making these changes ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have studied both sides of the environmental issues, the political side and the environmental side.  We do have many problems that need to be taken care of immediately with the environment.  GMO&#8217;s, mass cutting of our trees, etc.  From the research on both sides I have done, climate change is not occurring because of carbon emissions.  This is propaganda being used to condition everyone for being taxed on carbon emissions.  This is openly stated by several political leaders, scientists, CEO&#8217;s, etc. from all around the globe.  Carbon is a life producing gas.  It was here well before oxygen.  Please do not be sucked in to this propaganda and allow them to enforce carbon taxes.  These taxes will do nothing to reverse any of the environmental problems.  The suggestions above are the solutions.  We need to act upon our knowledge and begin making these changes ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Grifen</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/12/03/whistling-in-the-wind/#comment-28574</link>
		<dc:creator>Grifen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12. Grow soil under pasture. Good call kiko! I think its worthwhile taking some time for us to collectively think about what core actions are required in the new regenerative economy...the meta projects of our time. Our priority actions. I know Gaia University associates have put some significant thought into these key project areas...not sure where its at now. Holmgren´s flower gives some insights, sustainability indicators, rob hopkins hit a few nails on the head, patterns of a conservation economy, etc.
We need to keep the good news coming amongst the hard reality doom and gloom. Specific clear and concise actions for people, many of whom are looking for simple solutions that work. We are about to be bombarded with people asking deep fundamental questions about how to meet their own needs from as close to home as possible.
Heads up people, the pendulum has swung. Time to get organised, time to fully take our ethical stances.
Hugs from Chile!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12. Grow soil under pasture. Good call kiko! I think its worthwhile taking some time for us to collectively think about what core actions are required in the new regenerative economy&#8230;the meta projects of our time. Our priority actions. I know Gaia University associates have put some significant thought into these key project areas&#8230;not sure where its at now. Holmgren´s flower gives some insights, sustainability indicators, rob hopkins hit a few nails on the head, patterns of a conservation economy, etc.<br />
We need to keep the good news coming amongst the hard reality doom and gloom. Specific clear and concise actions for people, many of whom are looking for simple solutions that work. We are about to be bombarded with people asking deep fundamental questions about how to meet their own needs from as close to home as possible.<br />
Heads up people, the pendulum has swung. Time to get organised, time to fully take our ethical stances.<br />
Hugs from Chile!</p>
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		<title>By: kiko</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/12/03/whistling-in-the-wind/#comment-28546</link>
		<dc:creator>kiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11. plant forests, it&#039;s cheap. they build soil and make it thicker every year (top soil is made from organic matter and carbon they contain is taken back from the atmosphere, they make climate more moderate and seasonal).

Let&#039;s build the longer list of what has to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11. plant forests, it&#8217;s cheap. they build soil and make it thicker every year (top soil is made from organic matter and carbon they contain is taken back from the atmosphere, they make climate more moderate and seasonal).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s build the longer list of what has to be done.</p>
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