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	<title>Comments on: Staring at the Future from the Top of the Slippery Slide</title>
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		<title>By: Zachary Stowasser</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/17/staring-at-the-future-from-the-top-of-the-slippery-slide/#comment-28418</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Stowasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - yes stay patient and focused upon what you want.  You are awake and with that you are different.  Our parents may not wake up in this lifetime, be kind and give them love and continue on your own path.  There are like minded people all over, many scared and in shock at what is happening and what may happen.  If there are community events on these subjects, go out and meet some people. If there are no events, start a community party - perhaps a potluck with encouragement to bring locally grown food, preferably from people&#039;s own land, may it be a few acres outside of town or their front lawn.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; yes stay patient and focused upon what you want.  You are awake and with that you are different.  Our parents may not wake up in this lifetime, be kind and give them love and continue on your own path.  There are like minded people all over, many scared and in shock at what is happening and what may happen.  If there are community events on these subjects, go out and meet some people. If there are no events, start a community party &#8211; perhaps a potluck with encouragement to bring locally grown food, preferably from people&#8217;s own land, may it be a few acres outside of town or their front lawn.  <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mackintosh</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/17/staring-at-the-future-from-the-top-of-the-slippery-slide/#comment-28226</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mackintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark - yes, agree. It is frustrating. As mentioned in the post above, if we didn&#039;t have to spend half our time alerting people to where we&#039;re at in history, we could all concentrate on transitioning. Waking people up is half the battle.

Miller, see paragraph above. And if you&#039;re a permaculturist, please feel free to send articles to add to the discussion. We like a good mix of relevant current events and on-the-ground design posts. Thanks for your contribution. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark &#8211; yes, agree. It is frustrating. As mentioned in the post above, if we didn&#8217;t have to spend half our time alerting people to where we&#8217;re at in history, we could all concentrate on transitioning. Waking people up is half the battle.</p>
<p>Miller, see paragraph above. And if you&#8217;re a permaculturist, please feel free to send articles to add to the discussion. We like a good mix of relevant current events and on-the-ground design posts. Thanks for your contribution. <img src='http://permaculture.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: miller talbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>miller talbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you guys ever write about permaculture???

just curious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you guys ever write about permaculture???</p>
<p>just curious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://permaculture.org.au/2008/11/17/staring-at-the-future-from-the-top-of-the-slippery-slide/#comment-28215</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read two other breakdowns of the IEA report, I feel this was the most informational, and with your writing style, most fueling (no pun intended). It&#039;s insane to me, how the populations of the Western world, do not give a damn. 

For myself and my friends, we&#039;re very un-sure of this predicament. We still have the rest of our lives to face this issue, while our parents basque in the wonders of modern life and preach to us of how we need to get jobs and not grow food or dig a swale (&quot;It looks horrible on my LAWN!&quot;), or tell us how ugly a rain barrel looks. &quot;Just buy filtered water at the store.&quot;

We&#039;re told we must waste four years of our life in college, to get a career, so we can go on like they did in the 70&#039;s; have kids, get a mortgage, credit cards, excessive spending and lushness. 

So I find it so frustrating, when we are clearly at an apex, a time where we must destroy the models of our society and culture -- or be gone. But, still the models persist, and pigeonhole those who do not want to participate... Or so it seems. 

With all of this evidence (statistical and ecological), it seems the greatest challenge is to people like myself -- we do not want to be a part of this system. We want to carry out our work and do what is absolutely necessary and crucial. Culture wants us distracted and society prefers us enslaved. We&#039;ve all ready started down our path, but it is often times adults, those who believe in growth and destruction, who get in our way. I guess the only solution is to stay focused and persistent until the light shines clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read two other breakdowns of the IEA report, I feel this was the most informational, and with your writing style, most fueling (no pun intended). It&#8217;s insane to me, how the populations of the Western world, do not give a damn. </p>
<p>For myself and my friends, we&#8217;re very un-sure of this predicament. We still have the rest of our lives to face this issue, while our parents basque in the wonders of modern life and preach to us of how we need to get jobs and not grow food or dig a swale (&#8220;It looks horrible on my LAWN!&#8221;), or tell us how ugly a rain barrel looks. &#8220;Just buy filtered water at the store.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re told we must waste four years of our life in college, to get a career, so we can go on like they did in the 70&#8217;s; have kids, get a mortgage, credit cards, excessive spending and lushness. </p>
<p>So I find it so frustrating, when we are clearly at an apex, a time where we must destroy the models of our society and culture &#8212; or be gone. But, still the models persist, and pigeonhole those who do not want to participate&#8230; Or so it seems. </p>
<p>With all of this evidence (statistical and ecological), it seems the greatest challenge is to people like myself &#8212; we do not want to be a part of this system. We want to carry out our work and do what is absolutely necessary and crucial. Culture wants us distracted and society prefers us enslaved. We&#8217;ve all ready started down our path, but it is often times adults, those who believe in growth and destruction, who get in our way. I guess the only solution is to stay focused and persistent until the light shines clearly.</p>
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